I don't want to hear the excuse of "church is for imperfect people" because that's a copout. I expect secular people to be messy, but church folk should know better. You love God & never seen Him, but you're bitter and messy with and towards certain members, make that make sense. If the church is supposed to reflect society, then it's no wonder society has no respect for Christianity, let alone the church because the church does a poor job of representing Christ.